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Sony a7C vs a6500


and here with the digital digest and today i wanted to share a comparison between the brand new sony a7c on the right and the a6500 on the left now these are two very different cameras we’ve got a full frame camera on the right whereas on the left we have an aps-c camera but what they do share in common other than the fact that they both of course are sony interchangeable lens mirrorless cameras is their form factor and that’s part of the beauty of the brand new a7c it was sony’s attempt to get full-frame performance and essentially all of the nuance and niceties of their latest and greatest tech into a body that is of course more aps-c centric and when you look at these two cameras you can see that they really aren’t that much different in terms of form factor yes the a7c is a little bit thicker a little bit heavier but it also does have a new battery type in this comparison the best i would have hoped to have offered all of you was really to compare the a7c directly to the a6600 but since i don’t have it here i can only do that in spirit i mean i have reviewed the 6600 so through the course of this video i will be talking about that but really this focuses on if you’re considering aps-c versus full-frame now that we have a camera like the a7c i believe you should go all in and get the a7c the reason i say that is because yes it’s expensive at roughly 1800 us whereas you know the a6500 now is i think

it’s around a thousand us dollars uh plus or minus uh of course the a 6600 i believe is still a little under 1400 and if i was going to pick an aps-c camera right now it would be the a6600 but the fact that they’re so close in forms form factor not that far apart in terms of price of course getting the brand new offering that is full frame has the benefit of the fully articulating flip out lcd screen getting the benefit of having the full frame sensor even if you were to never use a full frame piece of glass and i say that because again if i’m truly comparing the a7c to its aps-c counterparts from sony let’s say you already have an a6500 or 6600 or 6400 or 6300 you know it goes on you probably already have aps-c glass kind of like this little ultra wide angle zoom lens which was one of my first favorites in the aps-c lineup expensive at its original retail still sits at i think 900 retail but often on sale for eight and it produces amazing results and look at how small this f4 piece of glass is but that’s because it is designed for aps-c use now it does oddly enough function in the full-frame world but with a very limited window in that 10 to 18 range but when we talk about using wide angles on the a7c that’s where all of a sudden we are reminded full frame is going to require full frame

glass now i say this because yes an aps-c lens not just this one but any you might have can be adapted to this camera it will natively mount it will shoot in a cropped mode so you will not get the full benefits of the sensor and those lenses will work you’ll still get great images i know i’ve tested it the a7c is a little gem it isn’t the best camera on the market but if you’re looking for the best performing camera in its form factor and i would add at its price point really checking all those boxes then it’s probably the right camera for you but part of the reason it was introduced with this new kit lens which is a zoom lens and i’m not really impressed by the zoom lens but what i am impressed by is its size because it’s 28 to 60 millimeters which is an odd range to begin with but keep in mind look at how compact they kept this lens i mean it’s smaller almost the same size as the 10 to 18 f4 of course this is not full frame but this is so it’s really bonkers that sony was able to make a full frame piece of glass that is this small but i’m not shocked because they already have several full-frame lenses even some primes in the older stable from the very beginning of full-frame email cameras that were fairly small but if you’re going to use their current glass that exists then you’re looking at something like this you want a wide angle zoom option that’s comparable to the f4 10 to 18 you see the size difference and so this is where i really bring us to that question of do you want to have really large lenses on an a7c and that’s where even for me it presents a little bit of an issue because the beauty of the aps-c lineup was that you could keep glass basically pro you know in proportion to the body now we’ve got a camera that has miniaturized the full-frame experience 4k 30 real time tracking amazing auto focus performance essentially that of the a7 mark iii full frame uh sibling but with real time tracking that it doesn’t is is not as it’s not available so prevalent in terms of the amount of features you’re going to get here with the a7c uh you also of course as i mentioned have the new flip out display which is another nicety the relocation of the video record button

which on aps-c bodies was relegated to the thumb grip for oh so long too long and the at the end of the day you’re going to need to really put on large lenses because let’s say you don’t consider this to be up to snuff which is the f4 zeiss 16 to 35 full frame well then you’re looking at something like a g master this is the 24 to 70 and it’s not that much bigger but we’re getting even larger so the point is is what do you expect what is your takeaway from the full frame experience i look at it that if you’re in the market right now for apsc and that fits your budget the a65 66 6400 those are all great options but if you can afford to take a step into the a7c as opposed to these older aps-c cameras the a7c is worth every dollar because as i’ve mentioned you can shoot all of those smaller lenses sony has promised to launch more lenses specifically for this new form factor that they’ve put out so that’s promising as well but you know i don’t expect to see true development a full fleshing out of the lens lineup if you will for quite some time so this is an early adopter camera it also isn’t if you’re willing to work with the bigger lenses so that’s that’s a real big difference but when it comes to stabilization both have five axis in body stabilization and then if you’re shooting with a lens that is optical steady shot that is yet another benefit but this also has active steady shot and that is something

you will not find in the 6500 you will find it in the 6600 and that is really good if you’re looking to not achieve gimbal like stabilization but at least get closer to run and gun stabilization that isn’t going to make someone want to throw up because you know the five-axis stabilization is better than nothing it’s not game-changing but the active steady shot does bump us up into a tier where now all of the sudden handheld footage in many instances depending on operator i’ll say error or success could make something look like it was truly on a gimbal now if you’re going to just run around and you know be haphazard even active steady shot can’t correct that sort of incompetence so it’s something to be aware of but ultimately the build quality the dynamic range afforded by the sensor the video quality in general because of also updated processing hardware even though this is another bionzx series processor with the a7c you are getting new hardware so the eye autofocus the real-time tracking that i’ve mentioned it’s all going to be better than any camera before it so when people say well it’s just an a7 3 no it’s not it has new hardware that the a7 iii doesn’t and in essence that by itself makes it better than the a7 iii now if you have really large hands then both of these cameras really shouldn’t be on your short list to begin with so at the end of the day it really comes down to budget in my opinion if you know that you don’t want to spend a lot of money then apsc is still the way to go because bang for buck is king in the apsc realm and i’m not saying that that makes the a6600 a good value but the ap the aps-c lineup until the a600 was stuck with a w-series battery which i don’t even have inside this camera right now that really was fairly limited on battery life the beauty of the transition to the a600 and now with the a7c is that we do

have the z type battery that was introduced with the a7 r3 and that is a hell of a difference when it comes to shooting it means carrying less batteries yes they are more expensive but they’re higher quality you’re going to get better overall performance it’s night and day i mean it’s roughly nearly four times the battery life of what you would get in w series with aps-c cameras now as i mentioned the a6600 is the one exception in sony’s aps-c lineup that does have that benefit uh something else i’ll point out here that doesn’t exist on the a7c is we do have a flash but you know how important is having that flash i mean anyone who is shooting at the level where they were ready to drop 1800 on a body as opposed to a little over a thousand when this retailed it was a little over a grand i think it was 1200 i believe if memory serves back in 2017 uh now you know a thousand or less they’re not really operating in the same sphere in terms of who sony thinks it’s going to appeal to and then if you do want to mount a flash you obviously can you can mount a microphone a lot of options a lot of versatility um you know it’s just it’s a different animal so uh even the weather sealing system is completely different and that’s the beauty of the a7c is that it’s not just that they shrunk down a full-frame camera into an aps-c type body which they most definitely did but you’re getting all of the current technical and hardware upgrades that really only exist in new models and is true of anything that’s new in anything technologically related so you know some people look at this camera as corners cut in order to achieve its form factor and there is some truth to that i mean for example the evf here very similar to the evf here and at 1800 i would have liked a better evf than what is on a

much less expensive camera but this is sony’s first step in delivering a full-frame interchangeable lens camera in this form factor and we have to take that with a grain of salt i look at this as more of a very bright future for what sony’s doing with full frame which is a return to where things began in aps-c which is give us as little compromise as possible in the smallest form factor you can and you know really all began with that nex-7 if you can remember that far back to 2012 which was an amazing little camera only had contrast uh autofocus oh the good old days and now of course of course both of these have hybrid systems but the system that lives in here is just night and day i mean you would never if you could time travel back you would have never thought that sony would all of a sudden become king of autofocus with their a9 series but they have and of course the a7c much like the a7r4 and of course the a7 s mark iii are all sort of offspring of that amazing auto focus capability so while many sony cameras can claim to have eye auto focus and real time tracking i assure you the best performance is going to come from their latest models because they benefit from again the latest hardware this camera being no exception so from a handling perspective i’ve already covered it if you’re trying to keep things light remember uh unless you’re waiting on sony to make more of their new gen lenses designed designed it listen to me it’s late designed for the a7c you’re going to have to work with either aps-c crop lenses or full-frame glass that is going to make this not unstable but a lot less ergonomically pleasing than a regular aps-c alternative and also when it comes to weight even though these two look very similar in terms of form factor i can assure you the a7c is much heavier is it a world of difference no but it’s absolutely at another level i mean you can just you see the bottom you just see the chassis how thick it is now when it comes to video another thing i want to point out is that and i’ll refer to the a6600 here rather than the 65 because it is really the more current the a6600 is not free of overheating issues like all sony’s current cameras i’m speaking specifically to video usage although it’s possible even with still i’ve had my moments out in the desert masada

was one good example where my a7r iii took a crap and that was in mixed use so it wasn’t because i was shooting a feature film but conditions can do that to any manufacturer’s camera but when it comes to these two again i’m going to pretend this is the a6600 the a7c is going to be far better at managing the heat than the a6600 is it going to be a world of difference no and if i had to pick between the two i would pick this camera every time over the a6600 especially because they are so close in price um some people think sony’s doing a little bit a little bit of cannibalization cannibalizing their own product line i don’t think so i think they’re giving us more options and a world with more options is inherently a good thing unless you know you just don’t like making decisions i guess and that’s part of what i’m here to help all of you with is that you know i provide you with my opinion and i still think there is a space for apsc i hope that sony’s not abandoning it but a camera like the a7c certainly makes the argument for abandoning it because all of a sudden you’ve got all of the capability of full frame and a body that’s only slightly larger and heavier than an aps-c body and granted by the way the a6600 is bigger than the a65 because it does have uh the z-type series battery as i mentioned earlier in this video so these are just all things to be aware of if i you know take off i’ll do this now just to give you a taste again just to see it and unfortunately i actually just sold my this a 6500 it’s going to be going to hopefully a good family i like to see my gear go to people that are going to get enjoyment love out of their

hobby profession whatever it may be so this was a package i always loved because i mean how else do you get a really high quality di tool like this with a 10 to 18 millimeter range at f4 that could fit in your palm now of course if i want to throw the wide angle native wide angle so that we have true full frame action on the a7c and i’ll stick with this rather than the g master because i really don’t feel that people that are buying the a7c and i can be completely wrong need to jump to full frame i just don’t not full frame excuse me g master because if you’re really after g master glass i recommend that you you know invest in a better body before you invest in the glass glass will always maintain its value hopefully if it’s good glass but uh you know putting a g master on a 1700 body it doesn’t run me the wrong way but it kind of you know if it’s your first you know full-frame camera or it’s the first time that you’re upgrading from aps-c there’s nothing wrong with starting at these zeiss f4 lenses and a lot of the g-series glass uh you know one of my favorite pieces of glass in fact i think one of most people’s uh favorite full-frame sony pieces is of course the heralded f4 24 to 105 with optical steadyshot and i think this is an amazing lens but again to stick it on the a7c the balance isn’t too bad i mean it’s not terrible but you know i was just showing you how easily this is palmed right and i even remember the days when i was shooting this on lesser models than the 6500 and i could actually fit it in a cargo pocket you know i had two cameras around my neck and then i had this little wide angle in my cargo pocket for those

wide angle shots that i couldn’t afford with my longer lenses and primes of course that’s going to be going away with this but now i’m holding basically almost the same capability and you see the difference i mean it does still fit in my hand but you know there’s no way this is making it into a cargo pocket uh unless sony wows us and produces a little uh you know wide angle zoom ultra wide in this form factor now this lens has not blown me away it’s a it’s you know it’s a kit piece of glass so i don’t expect it to just like the kit lens i had here which is where we started the comparison the power zoom 16 to what is it again 50 is you know a better than nothing lens so i used this only for underwater photography because my underwater housing for the 6500 could only support that little pancake lens that’s another thing where i see the a7c being an advantage so going forward if i were to purchase one of these which right now it doesn’t look like i will it’s just not something i need if i didn’t have the cameras that i do have than it would be on my short list no question you know you think about having that you know this lens in particular on here which again optically is not a gem but for an underwater solution to be able to throw this in an enclosure and have a full-frame camera with zoom capability granted it would not be power zoom but if you have a nike light or you know one of those higher-end pro-grade underwater enclosures having this sort of capability in an underwater environment is amazing i mean i was really impressed as an amateur a hobbyist the first time i got to shoot aps-c underwater so you all have to know that the idea of shooting full frame with full-frame glass is just something i aspired to one day when the pandemic is not cock-blocking but we’re not there yet but again this all comes back to is it worth the difference well i’ve answered that question in my opinion in every way the

full frame offering is worth the extra money however as i said if budget is your primary driver you’re not going to be unhappy with the aps-c lineup of cameras basically the a6345 or 6600 autofocus is very good on all of them of course it’s different from model to model 6400 is where we finally got real-time tracking for video that’s a big deal don’t kid yourself if you don’t shoot video you may not care the eye autofocus integration was a game changer so the aps-c lineup still has very good legs but if you’re paying retail right now and this was the 6600 and we’re talking about 1400 u.s versus 1800 i would absolutely every single time tell you spend the extra 400 get the a7c get their latest and greatest and even though the ergonomics aren’t going to be the best in town you will have a better camera overall and if you do decide to get you know expensive larger lenses over time so be it it’ll happen you know then you can start mounting bigger glass on there and even though the balance won’t be particularly amazing you’re not going to be upset at night you’re not going to be saying oh why did i do this in fact you’ll be very happy that you actually have a body that can take advantage of high-end glass rather than one that is relegated to aps-c only so again from a handling perspective i prefer the aps-c models they’re light you won’t get back strain if you’re traveling if you’re even doing professional shooting of course that depends on what kind aps-c rewards you and now so does the a7c but once i start throwing on the lenses i love the a7c does start to feel awkward and that’s just a fact of life of making a full-frame camera so small now bear in mind when it comes to io this camera’s rich so is the a6600 which is what i really would like to be comparing this directly to as i’ve said over and over again but at the end of the day no matter how much i could slice dice and go through the specifications i would take full frame every single time now that we have it in a body that doesn’t look like this you know move over see if i can get them all in frame but it’s like you have the evolution there and this isn’t this

is the a7r mark ii a body circuit 2015 but you see the size difference and of course this is the only one that has the flip out lcd of course i love the evf here kind of hate the evf here just because i’m left eye dominant and look at its location but beyond that when it comes to autofocus this is the best camera on this table this has the highest resolution raw resolution from its full-frame sensor because it is part of the r series but when it comes to these three cameras this is the best camera on deck right now it will outperform both of these easily so the a7c is a game changer in my opinion uh and if you’re considering whether or not you should you know make a fresh purchase in aps-c sony or full-frame sony if budget isn’t an issue jump on that a7c your back will thank you this isn’t about how strong your arms are anyone who’s a real photographer and by real i don’t mean professional i mean passion love shoots on a regular basis your back your shoulders your arms will thank you doesn’t matter how much time you spend in the gym we’re just not meant to be holding devices like this all day long and then throw on lenses like you know these guys one of my favorites right here or another one of my favorites right here and again your back is going to be like what the actual why what did i do to you so the a7c does mitigate some of that but as i’ve mentioned over and over in an unbalanced fashion but when it comes to autofocus video capability stabilization the flip out display the form factor the battery life the ability to toggle off the overheating thresholds the a7c really does deliver it doesn’t give you what the a7r4 or the a7s3 does but it does give you the best of everything else in the smallest body that sony has ever made full frame and interchangeable the only camera that could really beat this is an rx1 mark iii which let’s hope sony’s decides to bless us with at some point any questions or comments please feel free to post them hit that like button and as usual please feel free to subscribe and please stay safe later

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